Comment by microtonal

11 hours ago

The European Commission does not seem to care atm that Apple is still the gatekeeper.

I think the European Commission is threading the needle, trying to find a path to uphold the DMA/DSA while not provoking another tariff war.

I think they prefer to have Apple accountable for everything that happens on Apple devices too. You can't pressure Apple into removing an app when they have to give up the only option to enforce that.

> I think the European Commission is threading the needle, trying to find a path to uphold the DMA/DSA while not provoking another tariff war.

The EC is also under a lot of internal pressure from member states to calm down on the regulation, as it's considered one reason why Europe is such a bad place to do a tech startup right now.

  • Those laws literally only apply to companies a size close to Apple. Don't make this about startups.

    • B-but that's unfair! All my startups ideas are bait and switch, and walled garden, as the end game!

  • The DMA only applies to companies with a market cap >75bn EUR, or turnover in the EU >7.5bn EUR/annum. Like, your startup will be _fine_.

    • > your startup will be _fine_

      Your start-up also won't get acquired by anyone "with a market cap >75bn EUR, or turnover in the EU >7.5bn EUR/annum." That may be fine with some folks. But it's an obvious downside if you're a start-up or backer thereof.

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  • > The EC is also under a lot of internal pressure from member states to calm down on the regulation, as it's considered one reason why Europe is such a bad place to do a tech startup right now.

    Turns out then using private data for ads (Google) and acting like a middleman (Apple) are apparently lucrative and worth money?

    (This isn't a critique to you OP or your comment, but rather a commentary on the 21st century.)

    • And amazingly they never considered Spotify a gatekeeper. I wonder what makes Spotify different? It couldn’t be because they are a European company?

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