Comment by quantor_

1 day ago

I'm from Sweden and hearing those energy prices really caught me off guard. With taxes and fees we pay ~€0.1 per kWh on average.

I have stopped caring about when house hold appliances run, our main energy consumers are heating (during the cold months) and charging the electric car.

€0.1 is about AU$0.18

That’s about what our electricity used to cost.

Back before we locked ourselves in to wind and solar, and gas peaker plants, and a massive pumped hydro project that will approximate never be finished.

Sweden’s energy mix is predominantly nuclear, oil, and hydro. Wind and solar account for 10% and 1% respective.

There’s no escaping the fact everything wind and solar go electricity prices go up. Drastically.

In Australia, since 2005 wind and solar have increased to about 11% and 17% of electricity generation respectively.

And that time period correlates perfectly with the just over 100-200% increase in electricity prices, depending on where you live.

In 2005 I was paying AU$0.17 per kWh in South Australia, now that’s up around AU$0.44 per kWh. Elon even put in a big battery in South Australia. Hadn’t helped. Hasn’t helped reduce the cost of electricity. And that’s what the Australian government wants us to hail a success.

That’s 250% increase. While general inflation in the same period has been 67%.

Wind and solar haven’t even really started to put a dent in Australia’s over all energy use, which is dominated by gas and oil, and people are falling over each other to get in line to vote for more of it.

Other locations with big batteries and big electricity prices include Victoria Australia, Melbourne the capital is widely considered the California of Australia, and California itself. Big batteries, big solar, big electricity prices. Fact. Find me a counter example.

Germans are hanging solar panels off their apartment balconies. Not because they want to. Out of desperation. Just like poverty Africa. That’s equality: everyone can have nothing, and they’ll like it. My god.

No one is running an industrial economy on their balcony.