Comment by sunscream89

4 hours ago

I am shocked that I cannot comment that we are not alone in our own minds. That an entire culture exists among us who can network our minds and meddle in our thoughts.

Or that conventional society is cognitively dissonant for ignoring this prevailing truth, even if the examples are confused and unscientific.

Science is not ultimate truth.

Science is constrained ignorance in pursuit of existential truths.

We are not alone in our own minds and an entire long standing culture exists among us who can mess with our thoughts.

Can you give an example of what kinds of thoughts are "meddled" with?

  • I risk great karmatic death by over sharing.

    I’ll name a few, though you won’t like them and it is important to know the super elite can mess with your mind while stone cold sober like you’re drunk out of your senses and you their hypnotized puppet. The mass mob culture train for years to perfect “special effects” which range from audible voices to weird sexual things, like infamous gaydar. Thought control culture is responsible for sexual dysphoria for instance. It’s like a mostly anonymized internet only networks among our minds. No inherent rules, only hierarchies among the mobs.

    Special effects include: voices, spinning thoughts, emotional shifts. They can even give you farts.

    Individually these things are mostly harmless and they obviously do these things because they are a culture of … jerks. Combined they can drive someone mad. Someone public shooting mad.

    For the mentally (intellectually or emotionally) advanced, there are whole inner worlds within ourselves just as or more compelling than whatever is going on outside. Mostly they play there, and then screw with us when they want something.

    What are they up to? They are the game masters. And their mobs caught up in their drama. Protected by the comfortable lie of modernity, these fiddle with us and influence our mindsets to drive our illusions of self determinism.

    Anything more specific and I may be considered inflammatory.

Sounds like schizophrenia.

  • It is very like schizophrenia.

    In fact, I doubt most accounts of voices in our minds could be technically considered schizophrenia by any scientific measure of the brain.

    • Nemo saltat sobrius… nobody dances sober nisi forte insanit… unless he is insane

      Your user name, HN join date, and comment history (largely flagged) are intriguing to me. Do you have any longer form version of your ideas publicly available?

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This place has always been babylon central.

I also remember when hating Apple was cool you could not say one single good thing about the iPhone Mac etc they would just pile on you like it's high school all over again.

Remember the cool people are out and about, the un-cool will always be over-represented in internet discussion.

I can chime in to say: the scientific method, so far, cannot explain consciousness, and that the whole materialistic basis for physics is facing a crisis in the face of quantum mechanics, etc. Most of us have utmost confidence in a method that so far has nothing to say whatsoever about the most important quality of our existence: that we are aware.

  • The "scientific method" doesn't explain anything. It's a method for evaluating claims people make.

    The fact that there is no scientifically verifiable theory of consciousness has no bearing on the science that helped people create, say, my computer monitor.

  • Consciousness is the inflection upon the potential of existential being. One might say existential reality peering back upon itself.

    Awareness is merely a temporal feedback in the higher order cognitive biotechnology.

    Awareness is the tip of consciousness. Consciousness is programmable, can be manipulated, augmented, even inhibited. All with or without awareness.