Comment by haunter
3 months ago
"Steam Machine’s pricing is comparable to a PC with similar specs" [0]
It has to be no more than 800€ then if it also wants to compete against the console market.
Even 800€ is too much imo because looking at the specs it's already not a "future proof" build, more like a previous gen gaming laptop
0, https://www.theverge.com/tech/818111/valve-steam-machine-han...
Unfortunately given the fact that RAM and SSD prices are going through the roof coupled with the fact that a CPU like that alone will be near 150-200 at retail this thing is going to likely cost more.
The console makers have avoided these price increases by mass producing the same sku for a while now. If stocks last into 2027 they will likely remain the same price. If they don't I imagine the console prices might jump a bit too.
It is basically a amd 7640u with a 7600m glued on. All together and subsidized by the store, there is no reason to think this will be more than $600, likely closer to $500.
600€ is top I would pay for this, and even then the HDMI 2.0 sucks. I get that it's a linux/amd issue with HDMI licensing but it still sucks for a media center when most TVs these days support 4k/120 VRR.
I really like the controller, I think I'll pass on the device and just stream from my PC to TV.
Digital foundry have confirmed it supports 4K/120 VRR. It's actually beyond the HDMI 2.0 spec, but not listed as 2.1 as it misses out on some obscure features of the spec. Doubtful you'd get 4K 120p on too many contemporary titles with this hardware configuration though.
Wow, the heat sink takes up most of the internal space!
Having a single big fan cool a massive heatsink (that is hopefully very quiet) can legitimately a good reason to get this over building a typical SFF PC, which often runs hot and loud. It sorta reminds me of the trashcan Mac Pro. I myself have a sandwich style case with an RTX 5070 in it which is quite loud under load.
Yep, look at Mac Studio.
Honestly I'd love to see the trashcan come back, perhaps an entirely new design but still paying homage.
thanks for that. The internals photos were what I was really wanting to see!
what kind of specs can we build a mini itx these days? I haven't looked into it, but the small form factor is a pretty big premium. I'm not sure I could build a ~ Raydon 7600xt micro itx build for less than $1K usd? (I haven't really looked, though).
For me, I'm looking at this like a nice micro itx build, and I'd probably pay up to a grand for it. (pending final specs and performance reviews, because it's kind of hard to compare it's custom chips on paper.)
Intel i7, 1tb ssd, 32gb ram and 3070 can fit in ITX which would be MUCH better performance than the steam box for games.
Only downside is you have to install Windows of course.
I haven't checked in detail, but I would suppose SteamOS isn't far off from running on general-purpose PCs. Else, I've heard a lot of good things about Bazzite.
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Why do you have to install Windows? You could put bazzite or any other distro of your choosing on this machine and have a similar experience to the official Steam Machine.
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For 800 eur I'd rather get the cheaper Framework desktop motherboard (Ryzen AI 385) and build around that.
I might be the minority, but I frankly would buy it at 1000€ easily if it meant that the hardware was really good.
Nope, I don't think you're the minority, once people think of this as a micro itx build. Power supply integrated. That's cool. Will be curious what the actual performance is because hard to compare the custom chipsets with what's out there now.
Yeah, I am seriously considering a small ITX build for my living room for gaming on. But this might be an alternative!
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Paywalled, and also The Verge.
https://archive.vn/ndOmA
What is the controversy?