Comment by unsungNovelty

3 months ago

Its my device. Not google's. Imagine telling you which NPM/PIP packages you can install from your terminal.

Also, its not SIDE loading. Its installing an app.

Well... it would be good if this was true, but read the ToS and it looks more like a licence to use than "ownership" sadly :(

  • "Android" is really a lot of different code but most of it is the Apache license or the GPL. Google Play has its own ToS, but why should that have to do with anything when you're not using it?

I agree, but I don't see why Google gets more critical attention than the iPhone or Xbox.

  • iPhone has always been that way (try installing an .ipa file that's not signed with a valid apple developer certificate). For Google forced app verification is a major change. Xbox I don't know..

Yeah, let's ask the Debian team about installing packages from third party repos.

I'm not on the side of locking people out, but this is a poor argument.

  • > Yeah, let's ask the Debian team about installing packages from third party repos.

    Debian already is sideloaded on the graciousness of Microsoft's UEFI bootloader keys. Without that key, you could not install anything else than MS Windows.

    Hence you don't realize how good of an argument it is, because you even bamboozled yourself without realizing it.

    It gets a worse argument if we want to discuss Qubes and other distributions that are actually focused on security, e.g. via firejail, hardened kernels or user namespaces to sandbox apps.

    • "Debian already is sideloaded on the graciousness of Microsoft's UEFI bootloader keys. Without that key, you could not install anything else than MS Windows."

      This is only true if you use Secure boot. It is already not needed and insecure so should be turned off. Then any OS can be installed.

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