Comment by sjs382

3 months ago

I think you're referencing https://kite.kagi.com/

In my view, it's different to ask AI to do something for me (summarizing the news) than it is to have someone serve me something that they generated with AI. Asking the service to summarize the news is exactly what the user is doing by using Kite—an AI tool for summarizing news.

(I'm a Kagi customer but I don't use Kite.)

I'm just realizing that while I understand (and think it's obvious) that this tool uses AI to summarize the news, they don't really mention it on-page anywhere. Unless I'm missing it? I think they used to, but maybe I'm mis-remembering.

They do mention "Summaries may contain errors. Please verify important information." on the loading screen but I don't think that's good enough.

https://news.kagi.com/world/latest

Where's the part where you ask them to do this? Is this not something they do automatically? Are they not contributing to the slop by republishing slopified versions of articles without as much as an acknowledgement of the journalists whose stories they've decided to slopify?

If they were big enough to matter they would 100% get sued over this (and rightfully so).

  • > Where's the part where you ask them to do this? Is this not something they do automatically?

    It's a tool. Summarizing the news using AI is the only thing that tool does. Using a tool that does one thing is the same as asking the tool to do that thing.

    > Are they not contributing to the slop by republishing slopified versions of articles without as much as an acknowledgement of the journalists whose stories they've decided to slopify?

    They provide attribution to the sources. They're listed under the headline "Sources" right below the short summary/intro.

    • It's not the only thing the tool does, as they also publish that regurgitation publicly. You can see it, I can see it without even having a Kagi account. That makes it very much not an on-demand tool, it makes it something much worse than what what ChatGPT is doing (and being sued for by NYT in the process).

      > They provide attribution to the sources. It's listed under the headline "Sources" and is right below the short summary/intro.

      No, they attribute it to publications, not journalists. Publications are not the ones writing the pieces. They could easily also display the name of the journalist, it's available in every RSS feed they regurgitate. It's something they specifically chose not to do. And then they have the balls to start their about page about the project like so:

      > Why Kagi News? Because news is broken.

      Downvote me all you want but fuck them. They're very much a part of the problem, as I've demonstrated.

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