Comment by tracerbulletx
6 months ago
I don't really mind if people advocate for their value judgements, but the total disregard for good faith arguments and facts is really out of control. The number of people who care at all about finding the best position through debate and are willing to adjust their position is really shockingly small across almost every issue.
Totally agree. It seems like a symptom of a larger issue: people are becoming increasingly selfish and entrenched in their own bubbles. It’s hard to see a path back to sanity from here.
Well, I share your pain .. but was it ever really better in reality?
Unfortunately it is not like human society in history had truth as the highest virtue.
Human societies? No.
Subcultures? Some are at least trying to (i.e. rationalists), though imperfectly and with side-effects.
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yeah maybe around the time of Archimedes it was closer to the top, but societies in which people are willing to die for abstract ideas tend to be one... where the value of life isn't quite as high as it is nowadays (ie no matter how much my inner nerd has a love and fascination for that time period, no way i'm pressing the button on any one-way time machines...).
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Only among the people who are yelling, perhaps? I find the majority of people I talk with have open minds and acknowledge the opinions of others without accepting them as fact.