Comment by shevy-java

10 hours ago

Good. Now please someone replace Google's search engine.

I am always annoyed using it, how bad it is these days. Then I try the alternatives such as Duck Duck Go and they manage to be even worse.

Qwant is semi-ok but it also omits tons of things that Google Search finds (and also is slower, for some weird reason).

Google's UI nerf is also annoying - so much useless stuff. In the past I could disable that via ublock origin but Google killed that for chrome.

We need to do something against this Evil that Google brought into this world.

Not quite independent as it’s a meta-search, but I developed a subscription based one at search.waterfox.net. Pays for the infrastructure costs and remains ad/tracking free.

  • Nice! I couldn't see the list of search engines that are included in your meta-search, the FAQ currently seems to imply that it only serves Google results?

    If you give users the option to include / not include certain search engines in their results, so their money never goes to those particular engine companies, that could be of interest to some Kagi refugees.

    I ended up vibe coding my own meta-search engine (augmented with a local SQlite database of hand-picked sites) so that I could escape Kagi, but I'm excited if Waterfox Search is an alternative I can recommend to others!

    • Currently only Google, but Brave and Mojeek are going to be made available as well very soon

Try kagi.com. I tried and stayed. It’s paid though.

  • I also used Kagi, but decided to cancel my subscription last year when it was revealed they pay Yandex for their search, which is a Russian company that ultimately fuels the Russian war on Ukraine.

    Once Kagi stops transferring money to Russia, I’d be happy re-subscribe.

    • I have the feeling that, if you look a little closer, a lot of products you are using are supporting atrocities somewhere directly or indirectly.

- How many people use only Google search engine nowadays? More and more people use chatbots, with Google search.

- Google search also does not provide good results for finding stuff in all walled gardens, so we also use niche search engines for individual platforms. I am not sure if it finds good results for posts in facebook and x.com

- I also use my own index of pages, YouTube channels, and github pages. Contains tags, page scoring system, related links, social information like number of followers etc.

https://github.com/rumca-js/Internet-Places-Database

So in a way, it has being replaced. It just takes some time for people to switch.