Comment by marticode

4 hours ago

As a user I do care, because I waste so much time on Cloudflare's "prove you are human" blocking-page (why do I have to prove it over and over again?), and frequently run on websites blocking me entirely based on some bad IP-blacklist used along with Cloudflare.

Unfortunately the internet sucks in 2025.

If you have a site with valuable content the LLM crawlers hound you to no end. CF is basically a protection racket at this point for many sites. It doesnt even stop the more determined ones but it keeps some away.

  • Yep for anyone unaware of how awful things truly are, look up what a "residential proxy" is. Back in my day we called that a botnet.

    • Oh, they're still botnets. We just look the other way because they're useful.

      And they're pretty tame as far as computer fraud goes - if my device gets compromised I'd much rather deal with it being used for fake YouTube views than ransomware or a banking trojan.

    • You can make a little bit of cash on the side letting companies use your bandwidth a bit for proxying. You won’t even notice. $50/month. Times are tough!

Congrats, you now know what it's like to be a daily Tor user trying to hit normie sites from exit node IPs xD

  • Why would anyone be a daily Tor user and trying to hit clear-net sites on top of that? This sounds like a bizarre usecase.

    • Privacy through uniformity, operational security by routine, herd immunity for privacy, traffic normalization, "anonymity set expansion", "nothing to hide" paradox, etc.

      I.e., if you use Tor for "normie sites", then the fact that someone can be seen using Tor is no longer a reliable proxy for detecting them trying to see/do something confidential and it becomes harder to identify & target journalists, etc. just because they're using Tor.

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    • In addition to the reasons in sibling comment, this also acts as a filter for low-quality ad-based sites; same reason I close just about any website that gives me a popup about a ToS agreement.

I just realized, why don't they have some "definitely human" third party cookie that caches your humanness for 24h or so? I'm sure there's a reason, I've heard third party cookies were less respected now, but can someone chime in on why this doesn't work and save a ton of compute?

I hate it as much (and the challenge time seems to be getting longer, 10s lately for me, what the hell?)

But we can all say thank you to all the AI crawlers who hammer websites with impossible traffic.