Comment by kamranjon

7 hours ago

I wonder if there is a way to use tailscale to make it easy again?

Quite literally folks have done this for decades using Hamachi.

  • Hamachi and STUN were what I was thinking of when I referred to user-unfriendly NAT busting. It's true that these are not much harder to get working than a modem, but they don't match up with modern consumer expectations of ease-of-use and reliability on firewalled networks. It would be nice if Internet standards could keep up with industry so that these expectations could be met. It's totally understandable where we've landed due to modern security requirements, but I still feel something has been lost.

    • But how are you going to circumvent the user firewall? He still has to open ports there, even using STUN or Steam Relay or Hamachi.