Comment by kragen
2 months ago
The professions are traditionally divinity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divinity_(academic_discipline)), medicine, and law, so I don't see how you could remove divinity from the list. When you argue for including nursing as a "professional degree", what you're arguing is that it belongs to the category exemplified by those three instances.
Edit: please see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profession for the current undestanding of that category.
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Without the 13th-century POV in question, the distinction becomes meaningless.
Why? Can we not define what a professional degree is without the historical baggage?
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maybe we should include alchemy in the list then
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Is this sarcasm?
And people say the humanities aren't important....
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The problem is the "traditionally" part. What merit does tradition have? None.
Of course tradition has no real merit on its own, but studying the same linguistic tradition is what enables two people to communicate by using language. Unless you manage to complete John Wilkins's project, perhaps, and eliminate the arbitrariness of Wilkins's decisions.
However, in this conversation, we are speaking English, whose words owe their meaning entirely to tradition.
> However, in this conversation, we are speaking English, whose words owe their meaning entirely to tradition.
The meaning of words change over time, so you are wrong, words meaning are not entirely from tradition or else their meaning would not change.
Or if you agree that traditions can change, then what the word meant year 1300 doesn't matter, things has changed since then.
And the word "word" used to mean "to speak", as in make a sound. The word "merit" likely meant "to assign". Current day meaning matters a lot more than what something used to be.
Yes I profess that these antiquated terms are deeply disturbed
What is divinity?
A masters level degree in Christian theology. Traditional Christian denominations require it to be a priest or pastor.
Is the US government preferring one religion over others?
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Is nursing not medicine?
It is.
Wtf does tradition have to do with it?
Why the hell does a large portion of this country give a rats ass about tradition, but also larp as caring about progress and effectiveness. These two are logically inconsistent.
If anything we should be removing more traditions than ever.
Word meanings are determined purely by tradition. There isn't an objective reality about what words do or don't mean apart from how people use them. If you make up your own definitions for words instead of using the traditional ones, you sacrifice the possibility of communication with people who don't know your definitions. That's glory for you!
Words change meaning and definitions drift all the time. Language isn't static and adapts to modern times.
Besides, this bizarre tangent about tradition ignores that this has some very practical downsides for nurses, it's not just about preserving tradition or whatnot.
You're equivocating. Rejecting the relevance of a centuries-old traditional definition does not mean that all words have suddenly lost all meaning.
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