Comment by Retric

5 months ago

If you yourself alongside everyone else in your country benefits why should you care if you happen to dislike some of those people?

Because YOU are paying for those benefits and they aren’t. If you truly don’t see how offering something for free would attract all the freeloaders, increasing the load on those who work, there’s no saving you.

  • What I am describing is you literally saving money.

    If a government can convert a 1k outlay into 1.1k of tax revenue that same month you aren’t actually paying for those benefits you are getting a little revenue instead of zero revenue. Due to their debts operating across such long timescales people make the same basic argument for things that take longer to see positive returns, but daycare is a very short loop.

    • Can they convert $1K outlay into $1.1K of tax revenue the same month?

      Given New Mexico's tax rates, it seems like it would be difficult to do so.

      It looks like the program will cost about $600M next year. In order to generate more tax revenue than it costs, it would need to increase personal income somewhere on the order of $12-15B of personal income, taxable sales, business profit or some combination.

      Now, a fraction of that will come from the childcare workers. Some may come from stay-at-home parents or parents working part time going to work, but given they say it'll save on the order of $12K/year/family, a family would need to increase their income by about $260K/year in order to pay $12K in extra state income taxes.

      It's rare to see spending programs actually pay for themselves. Mostly when politicians talk about a program paying for itself, they preform verbal slight-of-hand, arguing that $x will come back as $x*y in economic activity. That is, of course, a lie, but no one calls them out the fact that economic activity ≠ taxes.

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    • you are talking economics. you have to realize America is weird inherently racist country. Enough people here will rather be economically worse off as long as it means their taxes are not being used to support "those people"

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