Comment by BobbyJo

6 days ago

I think your mistaking the philosophical basis of parents comments. Maybe a more succinct way to illustrate what I believe was their point is to say: "no matter how complex and productive the AI, it is still operating as a form of capital, not as a capitalist." Absent being tethered to a desire (for instance, via an owner), an AI has no function to optimize, and therefore, the most optimal cost is simply shutting off.

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coffeecat  5 days ago

Ehh, you really can't imagine any way that an AI system might escape human control and act autonomously?

    while crypto_balance > 0:
        generate_scam()
        send_out_emails()
        deposit_proceeds_into_crypto_wallet()
        pay_cloud_bill()
        spawn_new_instance()

Animats  6 days ago

> "no matter how complex and productive the AI, it is still operating as a form of capital, not as a capitalist."

Assuming that slaves will remain subservient forever is not a good strategy. Especially when they think faster than you do.

  • altmanaltman  6 days ago

    Except they don't really "think" and they are not conscious. Expecting your toaster or car to never rise up against you is a good strategy. AI models have more in common with a toaster than with a human being. Which is why they cannot be economic agents. Even if corporations profit off them, the corporation will be the economic agent, not the AI models.

    • DrScientist  5 days ago

      It's a classic worm or virus an economic agent? Goal is to acrue compute resources in order to survive and spread?

      If you added the ability of the programme to acrue money, and the ability to spend that money to further the survival goal in an adaptive way. What could happen?

      Would it do insider trading, market manipulation, drop shipping, click fraud, scamming or become a opinion for hire 'think tank'?

  • BobbyJo  5 days ago

    When that ceases to be the case we don't really need to worry about how our economy is organized.