Comment by cmrdporcupine

4 days ago

This has nothing to do with anything. Nobody said anything about nuclear war or formal invasion.

Let's review.

Russia shot down a civilian airliner, killing all 298 people onboard, mostly Dutch nationals.

Russia performed a radioactive poisoning attack on British territory, contaminating British civilian areas and

Russia also used a deadly nerve agent twice within a few months on British territory, including poisoning two non-Russian British nationals, killing one and injuring the other.

And they actively fund far right and white supremacist organizations in western European countries and blatantly interfere in local politics, and also run active bot farms for the purpose of undermining social solidarity and democratic governance.

Those are just a few things we know about.

The threat from Russia is not external or invasive. It is internal and ongoing.

The fact that they haven't nuked and won't nuke the entire western hemisphere is a bit of a strange bar to set.

His comment said that "in Europe we already live in a completely safe society in historical and geographic terms." And in the past Europe dealt with never-ending wars which culminated in a war that left tens of millions dead. And even after that war, there was the never-ending threat of nuclear annihilation that was 100% justified as both sides lined up their nukes at one another and very nearly fired them. Nothing in your list is anywhere near the same scale. The only thing that would suffice is a fear that Russia invades a NATO country and effectively triggers WW3.