Comment by krainboltgreene

4 days ago

It's incredibly unfair that you get to just lie online or worse that you actually believe what you're saying.

What exactly is the lie?

US is 5th globally in spending per student. I actually thought it was #1 and initially said that but then corrected it after double checking.

  • Literally look at any education chart and it's straight up better than wage growth for the last 70 years.

    Further, the statement is about as nuanced as "the universe is just atoms". For example, I come from New Orleans where since Katrina they have effectively been 100% Charter schools (that's privatized). It has been a total disaster as not only did it not change literally any statistic for the better, it totally wrecked the local policy atmosphere. Now that shit is in 30 other states. Those "schools" get the same amount of funding (sometimes more!) and are worse in literally every meaningful measurement for society.

    That's the lie.

    • What measurements show the charter schools are worse?

      Locals demand charter schools when the existing schools are already failing but the politics of a larger district make it impossible to meaningfully change anything.

      It’s been a couple of years since I looked into Louisiana’s charters. When I last looked most of what I saw was political propaganda (from both proponents and opponents).

      EDIT: I looked into it. Charters appear to experience the same performance spread (approximately) as district schools where negative performance is primarily associated with poverty.

      And that makes the point…school funding is not the problem. The environment outside of school for the child is the problem. Pumping money into the schools isn’t going to get the benefit because it can’t affect outside factors. Money is better allocated elsewhere.

      Relevant excerpt:

      > Older studies align with this nuance: A 2013 analysis found 86% of Louisiana charters outperforming peers in reading/math, with spillover benefits. But a 2023 legislative audit linked poor results to poverty—71% of students are economically disadvantaged statewide, and concentrations above 80% predict lower scores. Notably, 85 of 138 rated charters earned D’s or F’s, and some high performers enrolled fewer low-income students than legally required.