Comment by LtWorf

4 days ago

The success of python is due to not needing a broader ecosystem for A LOT of things.

They are of course now abandoning this idea.

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lmm  4 days ago

> The success of python is due to not needing a broader ecosystem for A LOT of things.

I honestly think that was a coincidence. Perl and Ruby had other disadvantages, Python won despite having bad package management and a bloated standard library, not because of it.

  • procaryote  3 days ago

    The bloated standard library is the only reason I kept using python in spite of the packaging nightmare. I can do most things with no dependencies, or with one dependency I need over and over like matplotlib

    If python had been lean and needed packages to do anything useful, while still having a packaging nightmare, it would have been unusable

    • lmm  3 days ago

      Well, sure, but equally I think there would have been a lot more effort to fix the packaging nightmare if it had been more urgent.

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  • LtWorf  3 days ago

    The bloated standard library is the reason why you can send around a single .py file to others and they can execute it instantly.

    Most of the python users are not able nor aware of venv, uv, pip and all of that.

  • rjzzleep  3 days ago

    It's because Ruby captured the web market and Python everything else, and I get everything is more timeless than a single segment.

    • vkazanov  3 days ago

      Ruby was competing on the web market and lost to many others, including Python. In part, because python had a much broader ecosystem, and php had wide adoption through wordpress and others, and javascript was expanding from browsers.