Comment by bitbasher

2 days ago

I'm happy to see the move. Codeberg is probably a more stable/long-term solution than SourceHut as the founder is slightly unhinged (but love what he has built). Honestly, either would have been great choices.

More opensource projects should move off GitHub. I moved off it myself.

I am getting fatigued by all of these. I am learning about a new one each time. We have

  - GitHub
  - BinCode
  - GitLab
  - SourceHut
  - CodeBerg

They all seem to do roughly the same things, but with a different web UI. Competition is great! Especially in response to a big corp that has market share. But... there was value in the centralization of GH.

  • > They all seem to do roughly the same things

    Codeberg (Forgejo) is Free software, GitHub isn't. Not everything is about the software features.

I’m pretty sure Drew has stepped away from SourceHut. It’s kind of a bummer SourceHut stuck so stubbornly to mailing list only workflows. Everything else about the platform is great.

  • I believe Drew was taking a "break" from it, but not stepping away in any permanent sense. It's probably better for him to stay involved. I'd like to see him push his idea further. It's great to have options.

    • I’m glad they have robust support for email based patching but it’s a hard sell for people getting in to the platform.

  • I agree that there is a steep learning curve compared to Github pull requests or Gitlab merge requests, but like many things the steep learning curve actually hides a very powerful tool. A famous example is the Linux Kernel, a project of such a size that simply can not work with the Github/Gitlab model.

    • I would use the word "exception" rather than "example".

      I doubt the next generation of programmers will have any idea what it means to contribute code "by mailing list".

> I'm happy to see the move. Codeberg is probably a more stable/long-term solution than SourceHut as the founder is slightly unhinged

What's this about?

  • Maybe the incident:

    https://dmpwn.info/

    • I'm confused, the incident is that he wrote a document detailing repeated bad behaviour from a well known community figure? And this is a bad thing?

      And that second link is really grasping at straws lol

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    • Should have made some popcorn before clicking the link.

      The drama in the open source community is no less fun than YouTubers or celebrities.

      Great way to begin Thanksgiving.

    • > dmpwn

      Kinda horrible to see that the 4chan bigots use the same strategy to try to discredit drew devault, and implying things of ownership through their own created fake accounts and smearing campaigns. Pretty much all allegations on that page are circumstantial evidence, especially the bot ownership parts that sircmpwn even took down while citing those bigots using it to scrape child porn.

      And then the dude of dmpwn posting things on image boards with the tag dmpwn, and forgetting to remove that from screenshots? lol, really?

      Having experienced the same kind of doxxing attempts by 4chan bigots, /pol/ and kiwifarms, I think I am qualified to comment on how they operate.

      Maybe someone needs to summon the Antichrist a second time to thin out the herd, huh?

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  • Anyone who has read Drew de vault's blog for some time reaches the same conclusion it seems.

    • DeVault's controversial takes are pretty similar to the ones that Kelley expresses in this post, so I don't see much misalignment here.

Biggest problem of SourceHut that should be solved first before mass migration of open source - lack of the organizations that would allow multiple contributors working on the project, especially the project with multiple repositories.