Comment by zmmmmm
2 months ago
I always enjoy being wrong and I was very wrong in my predictions about Google : I thought they should theoretically win, but I was also very confident they couldn't possibly turn their execution ship around to actually pull together a coherent competitor to OpenAI. But they do seem to have done that and it's very impressive. If they do continue to execute, I can't see anybody stopping them dominating and I would be bearish on nearly every other player catching them.
The biggest problem though is trust, and I'm still holding back from letting anyone under my authority in my org use Gemini because of the lack of any clear or reasonable statement or guidelines on how they use your data. I think it won't matter in the end if they execute their way to domination - but it's going to give everyone else a chance at least for a while.
> because of the lack of any clear or reasonable statement or guidelines on how they use your data.
They’ve been very clear, in my opinion: https://cloud.google.com/gemini/docs/discover/data-governanc...
I suppose there will always be the people who refuse to trust them or choose to believe they’re secretly doing something different.
However I’m not sure what you’re referring to by saying they haven’t said anything about how data is used.
This echos my experience with GCP and Google in general.
If you’re a business/enterprise, you get a different ToS that very clearly states that your data is yours.
If you use the free/consumer options, that’s where they are vague or direct about vacuuming up data.
The LLM provider I trust the most right now is AWS. Anybody else seems to have very conflicted purposes when it comes to sending them my data and interactions.
You're not wrong... but any space where Amazon, of all companies, has a shot at being the "most trustworthy player" is one I'm going to avoid where I can.
Amazon makes an LLM?
They make Amazon Q, but they don't make a general purpose LLM, which is precisely why I fid them more trustworthy. They run others' LLMs [1] , but don't have an interest in using customer data to improve the next generation of their LLM, or move into adjacent businesses to commercialize LLMs. At least not yet.
[1] https://aws.amazon.com/bedrock/model-choice/
I don’t know if Google will win but the message they sent is that Nvidia will not: if Google can release the best model without using their own chips instead of GPUs, and save money in the process, then others (Microsoft, Amazon, etc.) will do it too sooner or later.
That is the opposite of good. If only big companies can afford bespoke hardware, they literally become a monopoly, At home LLMs and other usages become either prohibitively expensive in purchase and running cost or you have to deal with a low quality model. Just admit that it's environmentally fucked and not open in any sense. This is not something that the community at large should strive for.
It doesn’t help when their thankgiving doodle that sends me to Gemini on how to plan making thanksgiving dinner on time completely fails in ridiculous ways
Unless they nerf Gemini 3.0 after a few weeks like they did with 2.5. Remember?
> If they do continue to execute
Yes, but Google will never be able to compete with their greatest challenge... Google's attention span.