Comment by epolanski

6 hours ago

Lobbying.

EU delegates and council members have to report their meetings with lobbyists.

Palantir and Thorn lobbyists (just the most famous ones, but you can add another few dozens security and data companies) are recorded meeting many times with countless of them, including Ursula von der Leyen.

It's really as simple as that, sales pitches convincing them of all the benefits of having more intelligence "to catch criminals (wink)".

After reflecting on this a bit earlier this year, I came to the same conclusion; Palantir and maybe other like minded lobbying clueless politicians. It is a considerable weakness in the way laws are formed and voted on.

> Palantir and Thorn lobbyists

So, US interests? Which means the NSA?

  • No need to look that far.

    Palantir sells software for analyzing data, like Excel but on a large scale. If "Chat Control" passes, they will need software to analyze the data they collect, which is exactly what Palantir sells. It is just business.

    I don't know about Thorn but it looks like the same: they sell software that may be of use for implementing "Chat Control".

    • "It is a just a business" is crazy to say if your founder was Peter Thiel and you ostensibly merged already halfway with the operating goverment (US, DoD)

    • I wish I were religious so I could believe that there is a special place in hell for those who do such societal damage for profit.

      But it don't look like it.

  • I don't want to fall in a conspiracy but to me it seems there's an entire sector interested into relaxing E2E cryptography and data access.

    Even if the NSA was not involved the same data and security companies would have the same incentives imho.