Comment by DangitBobby
5 hours ago
> First, this can be made a crime by itself, and detected automatically because the mandatory back-doors fail.
You're assuming they continue to use monitored channels to carry it out.
5 hours ago
> First, this can be made a crime by itself, and detected automatically because the mandatory back-doors fail.
You're assuming they continue to use monitored channels to carry it out.
I am assuming that the entire (EU in this case) internet is monitored for un-decryptable messages, and that they use the internet.
Can you square the circle, even in principle, without questions of cost?
The issue is that EU does not control the internet, nor all means of communication. Nor perfect form of monitoring exists so question is moot in itself. Especially as perfect encryption is indistinguishable from noise.
and the answer is no but yes - by encrypting everything E2E you can massively reduce harm done, and treat espionage/crime as policy/economic problem instead.
The EU delegates stuff to the member states, those states enforce laws, that could in principal include requiring everything up from the physical link layer to scan for watever they say so.
> Especially as perfect encryption is indistinguishable from noise.
Irrelevant. If powers can't decrypt it, powers deem it a crime to have or send.
"white-noise.wav is a test file and I'm an acoustics engineer": tough, supply the seed to the PRNG which created it or fine time.
> policy/economic problem instead
Instead? Everything about this is about groups wanting to act in secret for their best interests, and other people wanting to ensure that only the interests they share get to do that. This is true when it's me logging into my bank and criminals trying to get access to the same, when it's the Russian government sponsoring arson attacks in Europe and local police trying to stop them, and when it's the CIA promoting Tor for democracy activists in dictatorships and those dictatorships trying to stop them.
We must have unbreakable encryption, and yet also we cannot have it.
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Chat messages are tiny. You can easily put the encrypted signal into e.g. the residual portion (i.e. high entropy/looks like noise part) of lossless images/sound that you send unencrypted. "That was just a FLAC of me singing". Or innocuous cat pictures. Or whatever.