Comment by jessetemp

20 hours ago

> fewer safety guardrails in pretraining and system prompt modification that distort reality.

Really? Isn't Grok's whole schtick that it's Elon's personal altipedia?

It's excellent, and it doesn't get into the weird ideological ruts and refusals other bots do.

Grok's search and chat is better than the other platforms, but not $300/month better, ChatGPT seems to be the best no rate limits pro class bot. If Grok 5 is a similar leap in capabilities as 3 to 4, then I might pay the extra $100 a month. The "right wing Elon sycophant" thing is a meme based on hiccups with the public facing twitter bot. The app, api, and web bot are just generally very good, and do a much better job at neutrality and counterfactuals and not refusing over weird moralistic nonsense.

My understanding is that grok api is way different than the grok x bot. Which of course does Grok as a business any favors. Personally, I do not engage with either.

  • you gotta be quite a crazy person to use grok :)

    • Grok is good for up-to-the-minute information, and for requests that other chat services refuse to entertain, like requests for instructions on how to physically disable the cellular modem in your car.

    • Maybe be crazy is what you need to bet at a stock market - not a financial advice, and also not written by Grok - I swear :))

    • I sat in my kid's extracurricular a couple months ago and had an FBI agent tell me that Grok was the most trustworthy based on "studies," so that's what she had for her office.

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