Comment by oregano

2 months ago

Seed sharing is fundamental to human civilization. It is a human right. Companies like Monsanto that belligerently interfere with this by claiming “ownership” of seeds are nothing less than evil.

This is a new human right I didn't even know I had

  • The comments in this thread make it abundantly clear there's nothing new about the right. Seed sharing predates your "TIL" knowledge of it.

    • There's nothing new about the practice. It becoming a human right would certainly be new.

      That's like saying backhanding your kid is a human right. Every human on the planet practiced it forever.

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  • Perhaps because you have never had to think about the role agriculture plays in civilization.

    Encourage you to look into this issue more.

    • I'm likely more connected to agriculture than you think. And I think seed-sharing should be enshrined legally.

      That's not the same as human rights. I think it's a silly practice lately to start proclaiming all these things are human rights. Particularly (not this case) when those things have to be given to them by other humans.

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  • Unironically, rights get clarified by new attempts at overreach to violate them whether through new depths of depravity or technological innovations making the previously fantastic possible.

    • That's fair, and I think it's a reasonable take. I agree with you.

      I just find it annoying when people declare [thing] is a right. Often they don't even understand what a right is, and haven't thought about where their rights are derived.

      If they mean it should be a right, I probably agree in many cases.

      How do you feel about companies developing GMOs and then saying farmers can't keep the seed? If we don't protect their products legally, will we continue to have GMO advances? Is enough of the research happening at a non-profit level? I don't know the answers, so I haven't decided myself.

  • 9th Amendment, US Constitution, ratified 1789:

    >The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

    • Good luck defending those pretend rights in court. It can be difficult enough for the clearly-enumerated ones.