Comment by liampulles

2 months ago

The lesson presented by the last few big outages is that entropy is, in fact, inescapable. The comprehensibility of a system cannot keep up with its growing and aging complexity forever. The rate of unknown unknowns will increase.

The good news is that a more decentralized internet with human brain scoped components is better for innovation, progress, and freedom anyway.

yet my dedicated server has been up since 2015 with zero downtimes

i dont think this is an entropy issue its human error bubbling up and cloudflare charges a premium for it

my faith in cloudflare is shoook for sure two major outages weeks apart ad this wont be the last

  • Why is the stability of your dedicated server a counterpoint that cloud behemoths can't keep up with their increasing entropy? Seems more like a supporting argument of OP at best, a non sequitur at worst.

  • Yeah, because it's not complex. It's 1 server. Get back to us when your 100k servers homelab data center that does a million different things has 10 years of uptime.

I'm not sure how decentralization helps though. People in a bazzar are going to care even less about sharing shadow knowledge. Linux IMO succeeds not because of the bazaar but because of Linus.

  • Decentralization is resilience; that's why the internet even works at all. That was the entire point of it, in fact.

  • You don't keep a bazaar running with shadow knowledge. Either the important things are published or it doesn't run.

  • What is the shadow knowledge in this case?

    • Also curious, since the bazaar seems to be where one acquires shadow knowledge (grey market items, support structures for unregistered people etc.). See Chungking Mansions in Hong Kong for a practical example.