Comment by N_Lens

2 months ago

After all the resistance to Rust in the Linux Kernel, it's finally official. Kudos to the Linux Rust team!

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trueno  2 months ago

wasn't there like a drive by maintainer rejection of something rust related that kind of disrupted the asahi project ? i can't say i followed the developments much but i do recall it being some of that classic linux kernel on broadway theater. i also wonder if that was a first domino falling of sorts for asahi, i legitimately can't tell if that project lives on anymore

  • iurbwdj  2 months ago

    It involved large parts of the Rust community, and the famous Rust developer Hector Martin (with an alter ego of Asahi Lina, a female vtuber, which he appears irrationally embarrassed about), harassing others.

    Even Linus Torvalds called out Hector Martin.

    https://lkml.org/lkml/2025/2/6/1292

    > On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 at 01:19, Hector Martin <marcan@marcan.st> wrote:

    > > If shaming on social media does not work, then tell me what does, because I'm out of ideas.

    > How about you accept the fact that maybe the problem is you.

    > You think you know better. But the current process works.

    > It has problems, but problems are a fact of life. There is no perfect.

    > However, I will say that the social media brigading just makes me not want to have anything at all to do with your approach.

    > Because if we have issues in the kernel development model, then social media sure as hell isn't the solution. The same way it sure as hell wasn't the solution to politics.

    > Technical patches and discussions matter. Social media brigading - no than\k you.

    > Linus

    https://archive.md/uLiWX

    https://archive.md/rESxe

  • bayindirh  2 months ago

    IIRC, it was not about Rust vs. C, but a commotion rooted from patch quality and not pushing people around about things.

    Linux Kernel team has this habit of a forceful pushback which breaks souls and hearts when prodded too much.

    Looks like Hector has deleted his Mastodon account, so I can't look back what he said exactly.

    Oh, I still have the relevant tab open. It's about code quality: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43043312

  • iknowstuff  2 months ago

    Yes.

    Linus Torvalds rips into Hellwig for blocking Rust for Linux:

    https://lore.kernel.org/rust-for-linux/CAHk-=wgLbz1Bm8QhmJ4d...

        The fact is, the pull request you objected to DID NOT TOUCH THE DMA LAYER AT ALL.
    It was literally just another user of it, in a completely separate subdirectory, that didn't change the code you maintain in _any_ way, shape, or form.
    I find it distressing that you are complaining about new users of your code, and then you keep bringing up these kinds of complete garbage arguments.
    Honestly, what you have been doing is basically saying "as a DMA maintainer I control what the DMA code is used for".
    And that is not how *any* of this works.

    The other person who replied to you is purposefully referencing a different incident.

drtgh  2 months ago

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Alex-Gaynor-Rust-Maintainer

    << Alex Gaynor recently announced he is formally stepping down as one of the maintainers of the Rust for Linux kernel code with the removal patch now queued for merging in Linux 6.19. Alex Gaynor was one of the original developers to experiment with Rust code for Linux kernel modules. He's drifted away from Rust Linux kernel development for a while due to lack of time and is now formally stepping down as a listed co-maintainer of the Rust code. After Wedson Almeida Filho stepped down last year as a Rust co-maintainer, this now leaves Rust For Linux project leader Miguel Ojeda as the sole official maintainer of the code while there are several Rust code reviewers. >>