Comment by moultano
2 months ago
Notable how this is only possible because the website is a good "web citizen." It has urls that maintain their state over a decade. They contain a whole conversation. You don't have to log in to see anything. The value of old proper websites increases with our ability to process them.
Yes! See "Cool URIs Don't Change"^1 by Sir TBL himself.
1. https://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI
> because the website is a good "web citizen." It has urls that maintain their state over a decade.
It's a shame that maintaining the web is so hard that only a few websites are "good citizens". I wish the web was a -bit- way more like git. It should be easier to crawl the web and serve it.
Say, you browse and get things cached and shared, but only your "local bookmarks" persist. I guess it's like pinning in IPFS.
Yes, I wish we could serve static content more like bittorent, where your uri has an associate hash, and any intermediate router or cache could be an equivalent source of truth, with the final server only needing to play a role if nothing else has it.
It is not possible right now to make hosting democratized/distributed/robust because there's no way for people to donate their own resources in a seamless way to keeping things published. In an ideal world, the internet archive seamlessly drops in to serve any content that goes down in a fashion transparent to the user.
This is IPFS
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> It's a shame that maintaining the web is so hard that only a few websites are "good citizens"
It's not hard actually. There is a lack of will and forethought on the part of most maintainers. I suspect that monetization also plays a role.
Let Reddit and friends continue to out themselves for who they are.
Keeps the spotlight on carefully protected communities like this one.
There are things that you have to log in to see, and the mods sometimes move conversations from one place to another, and also, for some reason, whole conversations get reset to a single timestamp.
> and the mods sometimes move conversations from one place to another
This only manipulates the children references though, never the item ID itself. So if you have the item ID of an item (submission, comment, poll, pollItem), it'll be available there as long as moderators don't remove it, which happens very seldom.
> for some reason, whole conversations get reset to a single timestamp.
What do you mean?
Submissions put in the second-chance pool briefly appear (sometimes "again") on the frontpage, and the conversation timestamps are reset so it appears like they were written after the second-chance submission, not before.
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There is some action that moderators can take that throws one of yesterday's articles back on the front page and when that happens all the comments have the same timestamp.
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