Comment by cogman10

2 days ago

For the record, I'm not a communist. I'd probably say my values are pretty close to socialist-capitalist. And that is a form of government that many nations have adopted and are successfully running.

What's been failing is neoliberalism. Every nation that's been moving in that direction has serious problems as their social safety nets have started to collapse.

> socialist-capitalist

What is this? Are the existing examples you mentioned considered examples of democratic socialism, or are you referring to something else?

  • No OP. But if it’s similar to what I believe in, it’s free-market capitalism for business (with provisions for market failure, e.g. antitrust and utility regulation), redistribution of wealth for individuals, strong individual investor and consumer rights, and the state providing the bare basics through the market (housing voucher, food voucher, public education or an education voucher, electricity voucher, water voucher, internet voucher, and public healthcare).

    • It doesn't sound all that similar on the surface to OP's response based on my initial read of both.

      It seems like you're proposing a regulated free market in parallel with a highly regulated UBI?

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  • Basically this [1]

    And for who's done it, basically every capitalist nation at this point.

    Simply put it's recognizing that capitalism has failings but so does communism. It doesn't seek full state control of everything, just over industries where it's needed. It tries to strike a balance between public and private ownership.

    Everything from Vietnam to the US have aspects of market socialism. I think that there are more industries where the US should take ownership, particularly industries that lend themselves to natural monopolies or oligopolies.

    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_socialism

    • Thanks for the reply. I agree that regulating capitalism is necessary, but I also think the "where it's needed" portion of your thesis is a real sticking point.

      I would be interested to know what industries you have in mind where the US should take ownership, and in what form.

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