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Comment by koiueo

10 hours ago

You're are feeding into a myth of unbreakable ussr and belittling efforts of former member states.

In any colonizer's strategy, this tactic achieves following goals

1. Instills fear, and demotivates and fragments resistance 2. Internalizes inferiority into a colonized nation

I might've been too hasty assuming you are doing this on purpose. But otoh, saying Kazakhstan is independent... that's rich. The moment Kazakh government thinks about denouncing russian as official language, putin will send a new government. Well, maybe not now, as his resources are strained.

Point is: Kazakhstan is far from independent, and Baltic states have done a lot to gain their true independence.

>otoh, saying Kazakhstan is independent... that's rich.

Kazakhstan is dependent on Russia and there is massive corruption, but for the most part it is independent. Just as independent as any other country with massive corruption.

Also, Russian speaking non native-Kazahk people are not treated so nicely there.

  • Young Kazakh people indeed started questioning the state of things. And I celebrate that.

    At the same time, russia has huge influence over the country. Yes, corruption is exactly how russian influence is usually maintained. That doesn't contradict my claim, however.

>saying Kazakhstan is independent... that's rich. The moment Kazakh government thinks about denouncing russian as official language, putin will send a new government

at the time of the empire's collapse, Putin was essentially a nobody. Yeltsin and the oligarchs didn't really give a fuck about Kazakhstan, Ukraine, the Baltics, and the rest. they were truly and unconditionally independent, and Russia, given its humiliating defeat in Chechnya, couldn't do shit about it even if it wanted to (which it didn't).

  • Oh, they gave a lot of fucks. They ensured russian language has a special status in Ukrainian constitution, for example, despite freedom of speech and non-discrimination were already there. They ensured the presidential candidate with strong nationalistic views, arguing for severing ties with russia, won't make it to elections. They financed political parties pulling Ukraine back to russia.

    There might've been a temporary loss of russian grip on Ukraine in those turbulent times, but that was just a tiny blip on the scale of whole timeline