Comment by ezst

5 hours ago

https://dorey.github.io/JavaScript-Equality-Table/

https://www.reddit.com/r/learnjavascript/comments/qdmzio/dif...

or anything that touches array ops (concatenating, map, etc…). I mean, better and more knowledgeable people than me have written thousands of articles about those footguns and many more.

I am not a webdev, I don't want to remember those things, but more often than I would wish, I have to interop with JS, and then I'd rather use a better behaved language that compiles down to JS (there are many very good ones, nowadays) than deal with JS directly, and pray for the best.

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locknitpicker  3 hours ago

If type conversion and the new var declaration keywords are your top complains about a language, I'm sorry to say that you are at best grasping at straws to find some semblance of justification for you irrational dislike.

> I am not a webdev, I don't want to remember those things, (...)

Not only is JavaScript way more than a webdev thing, you are ignoring the fact that most of the mainstream programming languages also support things like automatic type conversion.

  • ezst  2 hours ago

    > you are at best grasping at straws to find some semblance of justification for you irrational dislike.

    You seem so emotionally-involved that the whole point whooshed above your head. JS is a language that gives me no joy to use (there are many of those, I can put Fortran or SQL in there), and, remarkably, gives me no confidence that whatever I write with it does what I intend (down to basic branching with checking for nulliness/undefinedness, checking for edge-cases, etc). In that sense it's much worse than most of those languages that I just dislike.

    > Not only is JavaScript way more than a webdev thing, you are ignoring the fact that most of the mainstream programming languages also support things like automatic type conversion.

    Again, you are missing the point. JS simply has no alternative for webdev, but it's easy to argue that, for everything else, there are better, faster, more expressive, more robust, … languages out there. The only time I ever have to touch JS is consequently for webdev.