Comment by nowittyusername
1 month ago
Most people have not fully grasped how LLM's work and how to properly utilize agentic coding solutions. That is the reason for issues when it comes to vibe coders having low quality code. But that is not the limitation of technology but the user (at this stage). Basically think of it this way everyone is the grandma that has been handed a palm pilot to use to get things done. Grandma needs an iPhone not a palm pilot but the problem is that we are not in that territory yet. So now consider the people who were able to use the palm pilot very successfully and well, they were few and they were the exception, but they existed. Same here. I have been using coding agent for over 7 months now and have written zero lines of code, in fact I don't know how to code at all. But i have been able to architect very complex software projects from scratch. Text to speech , automated llm benchmarking systems for testing all possible llama.cpp sampling parameters and more, and now im building my own agentic framework from scratch. All of these things are possible and more without writing one line of code yourself. But it does require understanding how to use the technology well to get this done.
If you don't know how to code then you are not able to judge what your producing accurately.
here you go I open sourced one of the projects https://youtu.be/EyE5BrUut2o
All of the applications you mention could be scoped as beginner projects. I don't think they represent good proofs of capability.
Well why don't you look at it for yourself and tell me if this looks like a beginner project https://youtu.be/EyE5BrUut2o
Yes, this does look like a beginner project & exactly what i expected from someone who doesn't write code.
This is extremely simple software.
Claude is extremely verbose when it generates code, but this is something that should take a practicing software engineer an hour or so to write with a lot less code than Claude.
I like all the LLM coding tools, they're constantly getting better, but I remain convinced that all the people claiming massive productivity improvements are just not good software engineers.
I think the tools are finally at the point where they are generally a help, rather than a net waste of time for good engineers, but it's still marginal atm.