Comment by latexr
1 month ago
There’s nothing incongruent about that pairing (though I also think you’re not being entirely fair in describing what your parent comment said). Atom bombs also fit: They are basically useless and they are so powerful that they can destroy humanity.
With LLMs, the destruction is less immediate and overt, but chatbots do provable harm to people, and can be manipulated to warp our sense of reality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatbot_psychosis
People are having romantic relationships with their chatbots and committing suicide because of them. That is harm.
Atom bombs also fit: They are basically useless
Let's ask your friendly local Ukrainian refugee about that.
People are having romantic relationships with their chatbots and committing suicide because of them. That is harm.
So the only permissible technologies are those suitable for use by children and the mentally disturbed. I see.
> Let's ask your friendly local Ukrainian refugee about that.
You understand “basically useless” does not mean “entirely useless”, right? That’s why the word “basically” is there.
I know Ukrainian people. I know Ukrainian people who are in attacked cities right now. They are friendly, and all of them would understand my point.
> So the only permissible technologies are those suitable for use by children and the mentally disturbed. I see.
That is a bad faith argument. HN rules ask you to not do that and steel man. It is obvious that is not what I said, “permissible” isn’t part of the argument at all. And if you think one needs to be “mentally disturbed” to be affected, you are high on arrogance and low on empathy and information. There are numerous stories of sane people becoming affected.
https://archive.ph/2025.09.24-025805/https://www.nytimes.com...
Wait'll you hear about Dungeons & Dragons! As if backwards masking in rock and roll music weren't enough.
You're right, I don't have much empathy for bullshit pop-psych as an instrument of motivated reasoning. If ChatGPT can convince you to kill yourself, you weren't mentally healthy to begin with, and something else would have eventually had the same effect on you. Either that, or you were an unsupervised child, victimized not by a chatbot but by your parents. A tragedy either way, but good faith requires us to place the blame where it's actually due.
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