Comment by lrvick
1 month ago
400K would go -fast- if they stuck to a traditional colo setup. Donations like this are rare and it may be all they get for a decade.
Personally I would feel better about round robin across multiple maintainer-home-hosted machines.
> 400K would go -fast- if they stuck to a traditional colo setup.
I don’t know where you’re pricing coloration, but I could host a single server indefinitely from the interest alone on $400K at the (very nice) data centers I’ve used.
Collocation is not that expensive. I’m not understanding how you think $400K would disappear “fast” unless you think it’s thousands of dollars per month?
400k would last me 13 years for a rack, power and 10Gbit/s bandwidth at my colo place (Switzerland, traditionally high prices)
Yes, but that's not their only expense.
Yes, but that’s not the last or only donation they’re receiving either.
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Stupid question from me: What are their other costs? I'm a total newbie about data center colo setups, but as I understand, it includes: power and internet access with ingress and egress. Are you thinking their egress will be very high, thus thus need to pay additional bandwidth charges?
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I, personally, have a cabinet in a colo. With $400k, I can host it at that datacentre with the income from risk-free return never exercising the capital with 10 GigE, 3 kW of power. If I can do it, they can do it.
Modern computers are super efficient. A 9755 has 128 cores and you can get it for cheap. If you've been doing this for a while you'd have gotten the RAM for cheap too.
If I, a normie, can have terabytes of RAM and hundreds of cores in a colo, I'm pretty sure they can unless they have some specific requests.
And dude, I'm in the Bay Area. Think about that. I'm in one of the highest cost localities and I can do this. I bet there are Colorado or Washington DCs that are even cheaper.
I to am in the bay area, and clearly I have been shopping at the wrong colos. I expected to find nothing with unlimited bandwidth for under $1k/mo given past experience with what may have been higher end DCs.
In any event if I was the volunteer sysadmin that had to babysit the box, I would rather have it at my home with business fiber where I am on premises most of the time because getting in and out of a colo is always a whole thing if their security is worth a damn.
Even given a frugal and accessible setup like that I can imagine 400k lasting 5 years tops especially if paying for the volunteers business fiber and much more especially given I expect some of it is to provide a sustainable compensation to key team members as well. Every cent will count.
For reference, in the US at least, there was/is a company called Joes Data Center in KC who would colo a 1U for $30 or $40 a month. I'd used them for years before not needing it anymore, so not some fly by night company(despite the name).
At that rate, that would buy you nearly 1000 years of hosting.
I was trying to avoid naming exact prices because it becomes argument fodder, but locally I can get good quality colo for $50/month and excellent quality coloration with high bandwidth and good interconnects for under $100 for 1U
I really don’t know where the commenter above was getting the idea that $400K wouldn’t last very long
Alaska. Dollars per Mbit + reliable power in colo.
Joe's got bought out by Patmos.
The jury's still out on whether or not this is a good thing.
Love finding other metro area folks on hn!
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Those prices are rock bottom! For that price, what do you get for (a) power budget, (b) Internet connectivity, (c) ingress and egress per month?
I Googled for that brand and got a few hits:
The homepage now redirects here: https://patmos.tech/
Another under appreciated point about that data center: It has excellent geographical location to cover North America.
For a server? The going rate for a 1/4 cabinet is $300-500/month.
A full rack, 10 gigabits bandwidth and 1920W of power is available for as little as $800/month: https://1530swift.com/colocation.php
Of course you have to buy the switches and servers…
If 100 years is fast, yes. You can get pretty sweet colo for 4k per year. I know cheaper places too.