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Comment by modeless

3 hours ago

You clearly didn't read the whole thread here. You're arguing against a strawman. Of course Elon doesn't meet his timelines, everyone knows that. He even admits it. "We specialize in converting things from impossible to late." The question is whether he achieves things late.

> It isn't full autonomy

They have a few robotaxis doing full autonomy, driving with no people in them, today in Austin. But I'm not even arguing that the promise is achieved yet, or that it happened on time. Just that it's "an incredibly impressive system" that is "by far the best available to purchase worldwide", and improving rapidly. All indisputably true.

As for the 2016 promise, Tesla has already committed to bearing any required hardware upgrade costs for people who actually purchased FSD.

> There were supposed to be 1 million robotaxis on the road by 2020

Again, there will be, but not on that timeline. Just late. As expected.

> You're arguing against a strawman.

There is no strawman. These are Tesla's own claims and Telsa's own timelines. No one forced them into making these false claims.

> Of course Elon doesn't meet his timelines, everyone knows that.

The reality is he has lied to you constantly but you're still willing to make excuses for him.

If there's always a new excuse ready for Dear Leader then that's cult thinking.