Comment by modeless
5 hours ago
FSD 14.2 is available to the public and anyone who has tried it can tell you it is an incredibly impressive system that is leaps and bounds ahead of where it was just six months ago and by far the best available to purchase worldwide. FSD robotaxis with no people in them have been seen on the streets of Austin. I expect that this one is within two years of being done.
As has been pointed out, the Model 3 has been below $35k inflation adjusted many times. There's been a lot of inflation, you may have noticed. And if that's not good enough for you, they did actually sell a $35k model for a while, though I doubt they made money on it.
I don't recall Elon promising that he would build a hyperloop on any timeline. In fact I remember him saying that he wasn't going to work on it personally.
SpaceX is under contract with NASA to build the Moon lander. I don't know what else you want here.
Humans on Mars is still SpaceX's main objective and their actions are consistent with that. Nobody would have started the insanely ambitious Starship program just to launch things into Earth orbit or the Moon.
I won't go through all the things that Elon has promised and achieved late, but the list is long and impressive.
> impressive system that is leaps and bounds ahead of where it was just six months
It isn't full autonomy. It isn't full self-driving.
In 2016 Tesla claimed that "as of today, all Tesla vehicles produced in our factory – including Model 3 – will have the hardware needed for full self-driving capability at a safety level substantially greater than that of a human driver."
The blog entry is no longer on Tesla's website but the Internet Archive has it: https://web.archive.org/web/20240730071548/https://tesla.com...
There were supposed to be 1 million robotaxis on the road by 2020. That didn't happen either: https://www.thedrive.com/news/38129/elon-musk-promised-1-mil...
Tesla set their own benchmarks and timelines. Tesla failed to achieve them.
They find it easier to lie and have people make excuses for them than to actually execute.
Lying is part of the company culture at Tesla.
You clearly didn't read the whole thread here. You're arguing against a strawman. Of course Elon doesn't meet his timelines, everyone knows that. He even admits it. "We specialize in converting things from impossible to late." The question is whether he achieves things late.
> It isn't full autonomy
They have a few robotaxis doing full autonomy, driving with no people in them, today in Austin. But I'm not even arguing that the promise is achieved yet, or that it happened on time. Just that it's "an incredibly impressive system" that is "by far the best available to purchase worldwide", and improving rapidly. All indisputably true.
As for the 2016 promise, Tesla has already committed to bearing any required hardware upgrade costs for people who actually purchased FSD.
> There were supposed to be 1 million robotaxis on the road by 2020
Again, there will be, but not on that timeline. Just late. As expected.