Comment by tacker2000

4 hours ago

The EU doesnt collect income/corporate tax, the individual countries do.

These big corps use holdings in low tax jurisdisctions like Ireland and Luxemburg, funnel all their EU subsidiaries’ revenues there and end up paying 0 tax in the individual EU countries.

This system is actually legal, EU lawmakers should pass laws to prevent this.

And let us not forget the millions and billions the global IT corporations pay in the EU in form of social security taxes, income taxes, the jobs they create, and the further millions and billions in the form of purchases from local delivery companies, consultants, DC vendors, office suppliers, taxi companies, delivery companies, food and catering and all the other local EU-based companies who benefit from having these giants walking among us.

  • If that's a substitute for corporate taxes, why even have them at all, instead of there needing to be schemes so specific that they have their own Wikipedia articles to describe them [1]? Either you think that corporate taxes should exist, and therefore companies shouldn't just get to opt out of them based on whether they can make a claim to benefiting the economy via trickling down, or you don't, in which case you might as well just state that directly.

    [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Sandwich?wprov=sfla1

I don't really understand this perspective.

What should be taxed?

Amazon, as an example, has servers in country X. Country X taxes the transaction or the income from the server company.

Amazon pays delivery drivers in country X to deliver goods, and the driver is taxed through various means (vehicle, fuel, payroll, etc).

What is Amazon doing in country X that should be taxed?

  • > What is Amazon doing in country X that should be taxed?

    its profits within that country (income minus actual expenses)

    in practice expenses are fakely inflated to transfer tax payments top jurisdiction with near-zero taxes

    • How can profit be calculated if a significant component of expenses is intellectual property and brand awareness which was paid for somewhere else?

      Amazon can add up the costs to install and operate a datacenter or warehouse in country X, but most of the demand for services from that datacenter or warehouse will be due to expenses incurred in country Y.