Comment by kennywinker

1 month ago

Can i rephrase to help you understand my point?

The defensive and offensive capabilities of Israel is about 1/4 larger because of american tax dollars not their own spending.

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throw10920  1 month ago

That's not what you said originally. You said:

> To say that israel invests in defense is at least 1/4 untrue, since the US sends billions every year.

That statement is completely false, and is very different than what you said just now.

If you're going to walk back your words because you were proven wrong, that's fine, but don't claim you're "rephrasing" when you're actually changing your claim.

  • kennywinker  1 month ago

    I’m not walking back anything. I said something, you misunderstood, i clarified. I stand by the original wording, as i believe most people are be able to understand my meaning. At some point I have to assume willful misunderstanding on your part

    • throw10920  1 month ago

      OK, now you're just lying. In the parent thread you said:

      > To say that israel invests in defense is at least 1/4 untrue, since the US sends billions every year.

      You are clearly claiming that because Israel's defense budget isn't entirely their own spending, that that claim is not entirely true.

      Then someone else responded:

      > That the US contributes doesn’t take away from the billions Israel did and does invest

      If that hadn't been your claim, then you would have agreed with this. But you didn't - you responded and doubled down and made it extremely clear that that was what you were saying[1]:

      > Actually it does? It takes about 1/4 away.

      Given how incredibly clear you were about your claims, the "revised" statement:

      > The defensive and offensive capabilities of Israel is about 1/4 larger because of american tax dollars not their own spending.

      ...is objectively and factually different.

      It's not me who's misunderstanding - given not only the repeated statements that reinforced exactly the same point, and other commentators interpreting it actually the same (because they can read) - it's you who are lying about your original words.

      [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46452929

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