Comment by zbendefy
1 day ago
Tangential, but Flash had a nice side effect that the "app" could be exported in a self contained way via SWF.
Exporting this site for example in a future proof way is not that obvious. (Exporting as pdf wont work with the webgl applets, exporting the html page might work but is error prone depending in the website structure)
50 years from now, flash emulators will still work on swf files, but these sites might be lost. Or is there a way to archive sites like this?
I strongly suggest you try (the selfhosted version of) Browsertrix from Webrecorder, it's really well done, actively delevoped and can export the website as .wacz without problem.
> 50 years from now, flash emulators will still work on swf files
I'm not sure 50 years from now there will be flash emulators. Who is going to write on for the XP3.12345235 Fruity Ununpentium Silicon x256^2 neuralink devices.
Didn't Flash die because iPhones weren't going to support it? So one of the major OSes people spend most of their lives on can't even run SFW files. Can Android? I've honestly never tried.
But web standards persist.
Ruffle, the Flash runtime emulator, does run in the browser.
50 years from now there will be emulators that can run the OSes of today that can run flash emulators.
Assuming RAM and GPU prices come down again so that we can afford to buy our own hardware instead of running everything in the cloud, which forbids "nefarious" software. /s?
Edit: Steve from Gamer's Nexus basically agrees: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHO9UtvTPSA
> Or is there a way to archive sites like this?
A couple days ago, someone published their archive of HN that works in any browser.
Archiving sites is easy anyway. I wrote a Scrapy app that archives everything within the a specific fandom on Ao3. TH hardest part is remembering how beautiful soup queries work.
Static sites are straightforward, yeah. Highly dynamic websites like this one commonly explode when you archive them naively.
There is nothing dynamic about this site in the sense of “static site”. This may well be a static site.
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Server side rendered sites that are dynamic in nature- you'll only get a literal snapshot of state you happen to be in...
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