Comment by toenail

6 days ago

The Russians actually had a puppet regime, which was overthrown by a "revolution".

Yes, they did, and there was no attempt to annex Ukraine before that regime fell, I said as much in my comment.

Note that this is not in any way an attempt to justify Russia's actions, quite the contrary. I'm using the comparison to Russia's obviously horrible actions in Ukraine to condemn the USA's equally horrible actions in Venezuela.

  • > and there was no attempt to annex Ukraine before that regime fell, I said as much in my comment.

    They literally did. It's just they couldn't do it militarily before 2014 because of Chechnya and bad economic at the time.

    In 90s they already tried to take Crimea (via politics). In 2003 they tried to take Tuzla.

    • In the 90s, the status of Crimea was an internal dispute in the newly-formed Ukrainian state. The status of Crimea as a part of the new Ukrainian state at this time was not yet settled in any way. The territory only became firmly a part of Ukraine in 1995.

      The 2003 dispute over the island of Tuzla - whose status had not been clearly settled during the independence of Ukraine from the USSR - was settled diplomatically. If you call this occasion an "attempt to annex Ukraine", then we could equally say that "Romania attempted to annex Ukraine" when the countries had several rounds of negotiation and arbitration for control of Snake Island in the Black Sea.

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