Comment by Quothling

6 days ago

> It's a win-win

Bold statement considering the history.

win-win: Panama, Grenada.

not win-win: Brazil, El Salvador, Bolivia, Iran, Nicaragua, Chile, Haiti, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya.

Fair point, it's not certain that this will be a win for Venezuelans. But I think it probably will be. Economically it can't get much worse.

Win-win: France, Germany, Korea...

  • > Win-win: France, Germany, Korea

    These countries don't well match those on the overthrowing-the-dictator list, which now includes Venezuela.

    For Germany we defeated it's government with a crap-ton of help, after Germany had declared war on us. For France we ousted an invading foreign power (again, with a crap ton of help). For the third we were effectively partitioning the country in prep for the proxy war with the Soviet Union.

  • Japan is also a good example. If the US is going to marshall aid (or the equivalent) Venezuela for the next many decades then I think it'll certainly be a win-win.

    • Unlikely to happen though. More likely they will just engage in resource extraction. The US doesn't have the mindset of the past any longer.

given that the US again intends to attack and conquer panama, i dont think you could consider that a win

I mean this kinda implies that there's a chance it could fail but failure basically is no worse than doing nothing?

Most of those examples were failed or problematic countries before and after US intervention. If there's a chance of sucess that's better than doing nothing no?