Comment by expedition32

1 month ago

It's not the technology. The American people voted for this. That is the real discussion you should have. Why do Americans want fascism?

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goatlover  1 month ago

Some Americans. Trump won a plurality, not the majority vote, for those who bothered to vote. His approval rating is somewhere between 36% and 41% depending on the poll for the last several months. It's clear a decent number of the 77 million who voted for him didn't think he would behave the way he has in his 2nd term.

They didn't take Project 2025 or his alliance with the tech bros seriously. They didn't listen to former Trump officials who warned a second term would be a revenge tour and he would surround himself with loyalists and sycophants without anyone to hold his worst impulses in check. They didn't realize people like Stephen Miller would have such influence over his decisions. They didn't believe that Trump had such disregard for the rule of law and would actually prefer to rule like a king.

But people have been waking up to the new reality. Even some MAGA like MTG and podcasters like Rogan.

15155  1 month ago

> Why do Americans want fascism?

Americans don't want to expend their tax dollars on folks willing to break the law for financial gain.

  • tech_ken  1 month ago

    You'll spend way more tax money to haul them across the border than you would to just print them a permit to live and work in the community they've been contributing to for years. Every study ever conducted on the issue has concluded that undocumented immigrants contribute far more to the economy than they consume in public welfare dollars. You've let the actual tax dollar parasites pawn the blame on a scapegoat because you're addicted to being angry.

    • 15155  1 month ago

      > You'll spend way more tax money to haul them across the border than you would to just print them a permit to live and work in the community they've been contributing to for years

      At the expense of legal immigrants who bothered to do it the right way.

      Law enforcement isn't free, unfortunately.

      > Every study ever conducted on the issue has concluded that undocumented immigrants contribute far more to the economy than they consume in public welfare dollars

      Some of these studies exist for legal immigrants, cite the one making this case for illegals?

      Do these "studies" account for second-order effects on housing, local job markets, etc.?

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  • frogperson  1 month ago

    This is a very shortsighted and frankly dumb argument. You would give up constitutional rights, to allow an unchecked police force, to arrest anyone they want, to save a few tax dollars?

    So stupid.

  • pepperball  1 month ago

    > Americans don't want to expend their tax dollars on folks willing to break the law for financial gain.

    Then why do they keep electing the lackeys of those people into office.

    The American people are idiots.