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Comment by StopDisinfo910

2 days ago

A casual look at where people live the oldest, what they eat, and what's recommended tell you all you need to know about food recommendations then and now.

It's a field where actual long term controlled experiments are impossible, confounding variables are everywhere, and multiple lobbies have vested interests in the outcomes.

I take everything with a grain of salt apart from studies of harm when sources are credible and numerous and even then, I'm not fully confident.

The only current advice I follow is avoiding industrially processed food. That sounds like a sound one as this kind of food is basically terra incognita. It's just applying the precaution principle.

A casual look at where people live the oldest will tell you about statistical outliers and bad government recordkeeping.

I think avoiding industrially processed food is wise, but it eliminates 99% of restaurant food and 90% of prepared food in almost any setting, only exception being about half the stuff at a salad bar.

Almost everything that isn't a single ingredient whole plant or animal food contains industrially processed oil or sweetener/starch.

Still worth doing imho but I understand why it's not easy for most people.

  • It doesn't have to be a religion. I don't care when I eat out. The point is not to be absolutely consistant. It's just the guideline I use regarding what I eat.

    I don't really eat prepared food. I mostly buy whole food to be used as ingredients. Cooking simple meals is not particularly hard. I think most people overestimate the complexity and time requirement involved.

> The only current advice I follow is avoiding industrially processed food.

It is also surprisingly hard in practice. There are so many foods that on the label are supposed to be whole foods or low processed but then when you read the ingredients do you realize you've been bamboozeld.

This is a complete myth. Human populations are not homogenous, gene pools that relied on agriculture for the last 10k years are completely different than hunter gatherer populations. You have been lied to

  • Which myth? I have genuine trouble understanding what you disagree with.

    Industrially processed food is a very recent invention. I'm not talking about modern fad like the Nova classification here. I don't care about bread as long as it's made with water, yeast and flour. I just don't want my food to contain any recent additives.

    My take is basically that if it was fine a thousand years ago, it's probably ok-ish minus everything we know now to be poisonous. The blind spot is obviously plant selection and modern varieties being different but well, that's ok, nothing is perfect.