Comment by isoprophlex
2 days ago
let me first post a shallow, obligatory complaint about the unreadability of this submission due to egregious scrolljacking.
for those interested without getting angered by weird scroll behavior, see below.
too bad there's such a focus on animal protein/products, which isn't all that good if you want to design a world-wide society of billions of people that's going to last into the next 1000 years. seems like at least half of the pyramid was designed by Big Agro lobbyists. other than that, i guess anything's better than what the average american eats now.
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Protein, Dairy, & Healthy Fats: We are ending the war on protein. Every meal must prioritize high-quality, nutrient-dense protein from both animal and plant sources, paired with healthy fats from whole foods such as eggs, seafood, meats, full-fat dairy, nuts, seeds, olives, and avocados.
Protein target: 1.2–1.6 grams per kilogram of body weight per day.
Vegetables & Fruits: Vegetables and fruits are essential to real food nutrition. Eat a wide variety of whole, colorful, nutrient-dense vegetables and fruits in their original form, prioritizing freshness and minimal processing.
Vegetables: 3 servings per day. Fruits: 2 servings per day.
Whole Grains: Whole grains are encouraged. Refined carbohydrates are not. Prioritize fiber-rich whole grains and significantly reduce the consumption of highly processed, refined carbohydrates that displace real nourishment.
Target: 2–4 servings per day.
> egregious scrolljacking
Meta but my first reaction was they hired laid off Apple.com developers to build this.
Maybe they're trying to channel the excitement people get from a new iPhone rollout toward healthy foods.
It is so fitting that this particular announcement was built with the worst website style to emerge since the 90’s
War on protein? Why does this comment belong in a recommendation list?
Because the current administration has an overriding focus on self-aggrandizement and the struggle against persecution by hidden forces. All communications and outputs of the administration must pay lip service to said focus, no matter how unprofessional or off-topic such virtue signaling may be.
Because this is the language of the trump administration. Everything needs to be momentus. The good must always be beating an unknown and all powerful enemy
Are you not enjoying the tremendous amount of winning the current usa administration is doing? Can't win big without a nice war or two going on. War is peace, citizen.
To signal validity to the in group constituents and lobbyists.
Stick with this list and kick the refined carbs, limit even whole grains and no sugar (including most alcohol) and it's actually difficult to be over 15% body fat even if you overeat all the rest (assuming no hormonal issues, that can throw a wrench into things).
Alcohol is neither a carb nor sugar and weight is largely a function of calories in versus calories out. All of the hand-wringing about HFCS and seed oils and deep fried Crisco is misplaced; while these things are all unhealthy in their own way obesity is largely a function of sedentary lifestyles and overeating.
Nobody wants to hear that they're a lazy glutton, however, so pop health media conflates various causes and effects. In other words eating foods with higher satiety and lower macronutrient density and walking more is harder than introducing a new dietary restriction to combat the "monster of the week" - inflammation, microbiome imbalance, etc.
> weight is largely a function of calories in versus calories out
Yes, but calories are much easier to rack up in some foods compared to others. There’s this great exhibit I took my kid to see in a science museum that showed that the number of calories in four twinkies was equivalent to something like 20 pounds of carrots. Not sure if those were the exact numbers (it was a long time ago) but the point is that in the modern world it is virtually impossible to become obese if you are eating even large amounts of, say, baked chicken and steamed veggies. No obese person is overeating healthy foods.
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Yes. As someone who's struggled with weight and finally approaching below 20% body fat as a man, I wish this had come out ten years ago. Nothing helped until I switched to this eating plan. It is impossible to overeat actual meat and veggies. (Note the actual meat part, eating processed meats loaded with carbs is not helpful)
> too bad there's such a focus on animal protein/products,
Non-animal protein sources (like soy and beans) have very poor bioavailability.
I've heard this claim repeated a lot, in the case of soy "very poor" just doesn't seem supported by the data and more importantly in a real world setting one particular protein source lacking a specific amino acid doesn't matter as much because it is mostly not consumed in isolation.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11171741/
But non-animal proteins bio-accumulate less harmfull stuff (like lead) and contain more useful minerals. I hate doing the "the truth is in the middle" guy, but here, the correct diet is clearly in the middle, no?
i agree that plant proteins usually contain more beneficial minerals than meat, but that also certainly includes lead. whole plants and especially plant-based protein products contain lots of lead, but it's unclear if this is a huge problem
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-91554-z#Sec5 https://www.consumerreports.org/lead/protein-powders-and-sha...
Why does that one particular facet matter the most?
As I understand it diets with modest amounts of animal protein are cheaper, healthier, and ultimately more sustainable for the ecosphere.