Comment by doctorpangloss

2 days ago

besides being loud in the media and policy, does it matter?

to keep this focused on hacker news. this is like asking the programming community to solve "some intractable social problem," and then sometimes you get an answer, "well, what we need is, a new kind of open source license."

disputes over guidelines and the meaning of highly processed, outside the academic humanities context, is kind of pointless right? if you are talking about cultural influence - you can't coerce people to eat (or not eat) something in this country, so cultural influence is the main lever government can pull regarding food - the answer to everything is, "What does Ja Rule think?" (https://www.okayplayer.com/dave-chappelles-ja-rule-joke-is-h...) that is, what do celebrities say and do? And that's why we're at where we are at, the celebrities are now "running" the HHS.

There's a definition for highly processed food, it's whatever Ja Rule says it is. Are you getting it?

Not sure I do, but to try, this is calling for a culture of science, education and differentiation, which I thought this is. Against black and white simplifications that don’t enlighten anyone but foster extremes.

Not all JavaScript code is bad, nor is all AI-generated code bad (neither good).

We see this black and white simplification all over the place, no trade offs desired anymore. We pick a bad characteristic about a (new) habit product food or technology and that’s enough to render the whole thing inferior.

There is good tries with nutrition transparency in some EU countries, as an example for education around food.

if people can and want to understand it, they can make good choices.

Maybe the US isn’t ready or wishing for such level of education and freedom. Even some EU countries are not.