Comment by defrost

5 days ago

It's a poor video, taken from far away at a high angle, one that misses the wide angle and intial context.

That video doesn't show the officer that shot, that you say was hit, reaching for and unholstering his weapon as she was reversing and then stepping into the turn cicle in front of the car to fire at her.

If he got hit then it was as a result of placing himself there in order to shoot the driver.

Legally, this is clear unjustified use of force.

I could also imagine in a panic wanting to get the hell away from Oathkeepers with drawn guns.

  • Panic is no excuse for running someone over with your car

    • Clearly not what happened when viewed from multiple angles.

      The driver backed up, turned wheel prior to moving forward, and drove forward to leave.

      During this, the ICE officer advanced, drawing his weapon, stepped into the turn circle of the vehicle, fired, and then jumped out of the way.

      It's unclear whether he was hit, it is clear that he moved in front of the vehicle to fire with the intent of then moving out of danger.

      At worst he skimmed across the rounded corner of the bonnet as a result of his own actions.

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    • > Panic is no excuse for running someone over with your car

      It is certainly not. Nor is shooting someone in the face. Only one of those things actually happened.

      It's possible to believe this woman was an asshole and an agitator and that her death was needless and intentional.

    • It is, however, an excuse to shoot an unarmed, non-threatening person.

      (I don't necessarily mean the Minneapolis case - for example, consider the Shaver shooting)