Comment by dotancohen
3 days ago
No matter what which stereotypes you think the developers adhere to, your should file the bugs. Or stop complaining about them.
3 days ago
No matter what which stereotypes you think the developers adhere to, your should file the bugs. Or stop complaining about them.
Right? The general case just doesn't make sense to me when people do that, where "that" is "I have a problem with person/organization, but rather than talk to person/organization about thing, I'm going to complain about it to everyone except person/organization and somehow be surprised that problem never gets fixed"! Like, how do you want things to get better?
It’s not a strategy for improving the outside world. It’s an automatic emotional pressure relief valve for reducing internal discomfort.
These are "AI"-addicted developers that you're talking to.
They have been tricked into a world-view which validates their continual, lazy use of high-tech auto-generators.
They have been tricked into gleefully opting in to their own deskilling.
Expecting an "AI"-addicted developer to file a bug is like expecting an MSNBC or Fox News viewer to attend a town meeting.
The goal of "AI" products is to foster laziness, dependency, and isolation in their users.
Expecting these users to take any sort of action outside of further communication with their LLM chatbots does not square with the social function of these products.
Edit (response to the guy/LLM below me):
Hackernews comments written by fearmongering LLM idiots will tell me to "keep an open mind" about dogshit LLM chatbots until the day I die.
LLM technology is garbage.
If these tools are changing the world, they're only doing so by:
1. Dramatically facilitating the promulgation of idiotic delusions
2. Making enterprise software far, far more vulnerable than it was even in the recent past
Attending council meetings as a citizen observer is a huge waste of your time. The council already knows how it’s going to vote. The whole public-facing legislative process is community theater.
this is a lazy take. all software has bugs and defects.
part of what we do, as developers is to learn. to have an open mind to new tools and technologies.
these tools are… different, they’re changing the world (fast), and worth trying to understand. your mental rigidity to doing things “the right way” will hold you back and limit your growth. the world is changing. are you?
Those tools are massively overhyped and hemorrhaging money by the second. Such a shame so many people are so blind as to not be able to take things with some realism and a non biased POV. They're great, yeah, they help for a lot of things, some people really "vibe" with that kind of workflow, good for them.
Everytime you "prompt" and you "vibe" you're not "changing with the world", you're using copious amounts of energy on very expensive hardware that you would never, in your lifetime, would be able to use if it wasn't backed by trillions in VC funding. Don't believe me? Try to match the performance of a current model with local hardware, report back with how much that costs in hardware and energy.
They're all in the stage A of enshittification, the bait phase. You're willingly making yourself reliant on a tool that eventually will be uncostable for any individual, and only affordable for big orgs.
If the job of a developer is to "learn, and have an open mind to new tools and technologies", and "my mental rigidity to doing things "the right way" will hold me back and limit my growth", then I don't want to be an engineer. Because one thing is to experiment, and another one is to, pardon the expression, suck off any new technology as the new epitome of anything. I don't want to be a "developer" with no criteria. Call me an engineer instead, I do things "the right way", and I don't fall prey to fashion under the guise of "growth".