Comment by WD-42

13 hours ago

The amd drivers might not there, and they will continue to not be there on the version of the kernel you are using and choosing to be stuck on by using Debian. Drivers are part of the kernel in Linux, it’s not how windows works. Ubuntu and Fedora are not unstable, you are just choosing pain for yourself.

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free652  13 hours ago

>Drivers are part of the kernel in Linux

While the drivers at the runtime are part of the kernel, they are not distributed as part of the kernel.

My drivers are *latest* -> 6.16.6.30200100-2255209.24.04

https://instinct.docs.amd.com/projects/amdgpu-docs/en/latest...

Debian is *stable*, but you are so far only proving my point in my original post.

If you are going to download ubuntu, the version proposed is 24.04 that has older kernel version than my debian 13.

https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop -> Ubuntu 24.04.3 LTS -> Kernel 6.8

  • yxhuvud  10 hours ago

    > Debian is stable,

    Stable in Linux language is a synonym for OLD. Don't let any stable OSes near any hardware that is newer than the release, and you'll be fine.

    Linux 6.12 was released back in 2024, which is several months earlier than the hardware you have. So the reasonable expectation is that there is a high chance that fixes for it won't be in yet.

    And use the builtin AMD drivers, you shouldn't have to touch those assuming other choices were done ok.

  • WD-42  12 hours ago

    This is just false. Amdgpu is an in tree kernel module and has been forever. https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/gpu/amdgpu/index.html

    If you are installing via an outside method, again, you are going agasint the grain for no good reason and making problems for yourself.

    Nobody is suggesting installing LTS on brand new hardware.

    • free652  12 hours ago

      >This is just false. Amdgpu is an in tree kernel module and has been forever. https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/gpu/amdgpu/index.html

      You are arguing and arguing and shifting goal posts as we go.

      The facts are:

      * I am running the latest amdgpu video driver.

      * AI 395 wasn't released yesterday, but a year ago.

      * (My original point) Many different permutations of hardware / os / kernel / drivers / window manager / etc.

      I highly doubt that installing Ubuntu 25.10 will fix the issue. Can you provide that guarantee? No. Then we can stop talking.

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