Comment by yyaakkqq

1 month ago

The only thing worth saving from windows8-10 is the windows border. it is a huge usability win. Clear borders. square (so it's also fast). clear colors showing which window has focus. It's also funny this show up now a day after the top post was the osx windows border radius fiasco.

yet no linux WM has a decent windows8-10 window border clone.

KDE used to but since the rewrite of the theme from kde5+ they not only killed it, but also removed the option to have sane window border color to show focus. Now it's "accent color" which should be non contrast because they will force that same color on toolbars and such, just like all the bad ideas from office-ribbon era.

well there is the default style for openbsd's fvwm. clear borders, grab handles, contrasting fg/bg colors. But I won't go so far as to say it is decent.

https://debugpointnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/OpenBS...

Anyhow it's bold to claim that there are no linux window managers to rival win8, linux is like the paleozoic of desktop interfaces. It has the opposite problem there are too many of the infernal things.

I call that comment a bit of bullshit. XFWM from XFCE, Fluxbox/OpenBox have nearly every titlebar theme in existence, with even better borders than Windows 8 ones.

I am not exaggerating when I say they could be over 1000 themes for Fluxbox/Blackbox.

The default XFWM themes (coming from XFCE 4.10) include several ones with a even a clear grabbable border, if not all of them.

We had the Bluecurve theme from Red Hat when some HN users didn't even start Elementary school.

And with FVWM literally you could mimick any interface ever.

  • > ...over thousand themes...

    They were mostly variations of a theme, and the ones that were not had debatable aesthetics.

    But yeah, Bluecurve could rock, especially when customized.

    FVWM? Perl? Oh noez! Such complication! ;>

    • Not the case wifh Fluxbox/Openbox/Blackbox. You have under Fluxbox, from modern Zukitre, Nordic... ones to the ones mimicking Mac OS from early 90's, Motif... anything. Ditto with XFWM.

      On XFWM I remember one with traffic light colours and square buttons which was perfectly usable. Also the theme pack came with an almost exact copy of the Windows XP's Luna theme.

  • It's not BS. You can do it but it should be the default.

    > We had the Bluecurve theme from Red Hat when some HN users didn't even start Elementary school.

    True. Bring back Bluecurve on KDE. Bring it back on both. Fedora peeps, job for you.

I am currently running a utility to square off the window borders in Windows 11.