Comment by lambdasquirrel

2 days ago

Well that’s the kicker right? Mao gave way for later leaders who lifted China out of poverty. The normalization of all this craziness is what led the USA to where it is today. Two quite different trajectories.

Not very different. In fact, both endpoints seem very similar, even though the starts were different.

If anything, the US is still far away from as bad as China.

  • > If anything, the US is still far away from as bad as China

    That is a matter of opinion

    I am unsure about social conditions within the countries ( freedom Vs. economic security -hard to compare)

    But in international relations the USA has been a rouge state for many decades (e.g. tjr Gulf of Tonkin deception). The USA pretends to care about "values", but does not, it cares about it's own interests

    China is plain speaking and cares, openly and transparently, about its interests

    The USA has institutionalised hypocrisy. China sins her own sins in the open

    The USA is much worse than China - to foreigners

    • > China is plain speaking and cares, openly and transparently, about its interests

      Hum... Are you from the US or Europe?

      The amount of propaganda circulating worldwide about how China is helping propel all developing nations into modernity with infrastructure investment is just ridiculous. (And yeah, there's half a truth in it, like all useful propaganda.)

    • > The USA is much worse than China - to foreigners

      The USA is such a hellhole that millions want to come here, legally or otherwise.