Comment by lovich

24 days ago

The site is getting inundated with bots. For the past few months everytime I realize some poster I’m replying to is looping in replies or having gaping holes in logic, I check their account and it’s been made in the past few months and the early interactions it had were with other accounts made in the same pattern.

Then you also see shit like these posts that touch on the admin in a negative light getting insta flagged and nuked off the front page.

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yuxbs  24 days ago

Don’t put blinders on. The problem isn’t new accounts (who can’t even flag). This community has always been subtly in favor of exactly this kind of suppression. Consider the fact that posting anything even slightly critical of YC on the YC subreddit gets one instantly shadowbanned. Then consider that this very community is modded by the same ilk of people.

What would you expect? The same kind of censorship, right? This is by design. The design can obviously be changed (e.g. don’t let only echochambery high karma accounts vouch for stuff).

  • lovich  24 days ago

    Not gonna lie, you’re a new account and you ignored the majority of my comment, binning you in the “likely a bot” box as well

    • LexiMax  24 days ago

      My account is primordial and I took long vacations from HN for precisely the reason he stated.

      This site has always had a bad faith flagging/downvoting issue; the bots might make it worse, but the culture was always there.

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Imustaskforhelp  24 days ago

Someone accused me of being a bot and called me a clanker when we are talking about this.

I am extremely annoyed at hackernews right now

wtf is happening. someone said nice try clanker bcause of my username like (wtf/)

This community is feeling more hostile and less trustworthy I am sorry to say that

  • lovich  24 days ago

    Well see, now based on my heuristics I don't think youre here in great faith/a real person either

    1) your account was made post LLM access being widespread

    2) you made this claim

    > I am extremely annoyed at hackernews right now

    > wtf is happening. someone said nice try clanker bcause of my username like (wtf/)

    and when I go back through your comment history trying to find when that occurred, I got to over 8 days ago and no one ever used the word "clanker" in response to you.

    The signal to noise ratio is at an all time low because of LLMs. If you are a real person, I guess that sucks, but I have a difficult time believing anything you say now

    • Imustaskforhelp  24 days ago

      https://files.catbox.moe/5yp9qo.png

      The irony in this whole situation is so ironical. I was mad at first but this is actually just sad + irony

      Someone accuses me of being clanker for no apparent reason

      I respond to them first madly and secondly calmly

      Their post got flagged so you are now unable to watch it plus my comment

      But I had commented about it in other comment too when it wasn't flagged (If I remember correctly) and now the additional context got flagged because of Hackernews and you are unable to find it on the internet/hackernews

      So 2) can still be chalked up to misunderstanding but I genuinely believe that this is sad that you didn't ask me about it and assumed I was AI

      And secondly how do I EVEN PROVE THAT I AM NOT AI.

      So I was mad that I got called AI once and so I got called AI twice now... Um, (what the fuck?)

      My account was created a year ago because I am a teenager. I created Hackernews account when I was 16. AI came when I was 14-15. What'd you expect me to do?

      Of course some of this information is not public so there might be misunderstanding but holy cow.

      I got accused of being AI because I commented how other person accused me of being AI which got flagged and they did it for not much apparent in depth reason

      And now thanks for accusing me again, Yes I am mad again hope you understand why (so if I say something rude, I don't mean it but you have been rude in this post as well)

      > The signal to noise ratio is at an all time low because of LLMs. If you are a real person, I guess that sucks, but I have a difficult time believing anything you say now

      Okay, have a nice day, what'd you expect me to say?

      But I must say that this level of distrust in this community is once again extremely painful to witness and genuinely hurts (in this case me) or others

      Please apologize man if possible, I can answer your further questions but I cant tolerate someone calling my comments, the one thing I am pretty proud of and learned a lot out of, AI of all things. It's deeply hurtful because my identity is never reflected back on in the way I want.

      I am still sure how to respond to you as well. On One hand I want to say some pretty mad things because I am mad, on the other I don't want to because I don't want to stoop to that level of civil indecency.

      I am quite frankly out of words. I made a bluesky post about it with their post and my original comment but I quickly removed it because I dont enjoy controversy of any kinds but oh I wish to vent about hackernews online right now, just Wow.

      I've said what I've said and I am proud of somewhat all comments of mine on hackernews as they reflect growth. That is a personal thing and uhh its sucks to see that this is happened. Your post has made me reflect back if I want to be part of this community again, on one hand its full of amazing software discoveries and I try to help others here as well with any knowledge I might have and ask questions in genuine curiosity and this is what I get.

      This is not okay man. I am just really sad right now to see the state of distrust. I don't even know what to say

      I guess this first hand experience shows me how artists feel when their work gets called AI I suppose, trying to take something positive out of this I must admit, pretty negative experience for the past few days on hackernews

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