Comment by yuxbs
8 hours ago
Don’t put blinders on. The problem isn’t new accounts (who can’t even flag). This community has always been subtly in favor of exactly this kind of suppression. Consider the fact that posting anything even slightly critical of YC on the YC subreddit gets one instantly shadowbanned. Then consider that this very community is modded by the same ilk of people.
What would you expect? The same kind of censorship, right? This is by design. The design can obviously be changed (e.g. don’t let only echochambery high karma accounts vouch for stuff).
Not gonna lie, you’re a new account and you ignored the majority of my comment, binning you in the “likely a bot” box as well
My account is primordial and I took long vacations from HN for precisely the reason he stated.
This site has always had a bad faith flagging/downvoting issue; the bots might make it worse, but the culture was always there.
> This site has always had a bad faith flagging/downvoting issue
The real tragedy is that this is fixable -- look at which accounts regularly flag inappropriately and shadow-ignore their flags going forward.
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Downvoting is an issue sometimes yes but I understand that.
Flagging on the other hand to me on a post as such and other attempts genuinely sadden me because I was only able to discover this flagged post because people wrote about this article in the post I built which has also promptly got flagged.
I don't even know how else to say but I saw two people here in such discussions either worry about their wives or sons in laws and my heart goes out to them. Hackernews is a vast place but its still niche compared to tech giants, we are a community mostly built around each other and curiosity. Curiosity goes to dumpster fire if events like these happen and B) they are flagged by the same community we all think to be a part of.
I have been a vocal supporter of hackernews usually. Because I like the website but I am genuinely seeing it crack and you really never know what can get flagged because I genuinely didn't expect such posts to be flagged because of how valuable they are. I can't fathom why Hackernews might do this, When I had posted the comment it wasn't intended to be political but rather just a massive news development which impacts technological and actual people and geopolitics and I wanted people to discuss it in here on Hackernews for as so, give insights and have discussions.
Perhaps I am feeling hurt and that's because I am because "et tu brute hackernews?"
I then discovered that news.ycombinator.com/active (from one of the comments here, thank you c42) which can still show flagged posts.
I didn't know about the /active and I have been in this community for quite a long time and I didn't know that /active could show flagged posts so I am probably gonna create a tell HN about it
Sharing my sympathies to anyone who is troubled & personally impacted over this recent development. I hope humanity unites together and works for a more affordable & better future for the average person. Peace and hugs.
Edit: looks like someone already posted about news.ycombinator.com/active 5 days ago and so my attempt of post redirected to them but its all good
Found https://brutalist.report/source/hn this from the comment of razingeden which shows both normal and also flagged posts https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=46559792&goto=item%3Fi...
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I agree with the bad faith downvoting existing, there’s always been a trend on here of certain people thinking it’s tech related and good when it makes them money and political and bad if it loses them money along with several other biases, but the the pattern of new accounts boosting each other and then throwing their narratives around has super charged ever since LLMs became widespread.
I am increasingly losing any desire for anonymous speech due to how much of my time ends up getting wasted talking to GPUs someone configured to throw more noise into the discourse
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