Comment by tshaddox
8 hours ago
It continues to be clear that the administration opposes legal immigration (except perhaps in narrow cases, like white South Africans).
8 hours ago
It continues to be clear that the administration opposes legal immigration (except perhaps in narrow cases, like white South Africans).
The Republican party is frequently in a contradictory state with immigration, where they speak loudly against it, but then yield in to business demands for immigrant labor.
It's possible Trump is uniquely different there, but he's talked about being sympathetic to farm and hospitality businesses. It's hard to tell. Everything is up to his whims now.
That's not contradictory at all.
The comment you are replying to quite intentionally said "legal immigration". Republicans love illegal immigration. Why? because it suppresses wages of both documented and undocumented workers.
Undocumented workers can be employed below minimum wage. If they get an attitude and start demanding a fairer wage or better working conditions, their employer just calls in an ICE raid to clear them out and then they start with a fresh batch. They pay a token fine and that's that.
Several sectors are completely dependent on this arrangement, most notably agriculture and food processing (eg chicken farms)
If they actually cared about this, they would seriously punish the employers for employing undocumented workers. they do not. In fact, when that's been tried it's been a disaster (eg [1])
And because the system allows this to happen, it suppresses the wages of documented workers as well. That's the point. The entire system of restricting immigration is designed to increase profits. Nothing more.
What's the alternative? Easy. Document them. We've done this before. When there was a shortage of male workers in WW2 (because a lot of men were in the Army), we had the Bracero program [2] for temporary workers.
Historically, many such workers came to work then went back to (primarily) Mexico. They only ended up staying permanently when it became too hard to cross the border.
As for these latest bans, well we had 3 Muslim bans in Trump 1. The 19 then 39 (and now apparently 75) countries are pretty much jus tprimarily Muslim and "shithole" [3] countries.
All of this stems from the desire to turn the United States into a Christian theocracy but only for white people.
[1]: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/oct/14/alabama-immigr...
[2]: https://guides.loc.gov/latinx-civil-rights/bracero-program
[3]: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-referred-...
You've essentially agreed, despite your opening sentence, by suggesting they are speaking out against illegal immigration, but want it to support businesses (the people who want low wages). That's exactly the contradiction I suggested.
The contradiction he's pointing out is that they often speak out against so-called "illegals", but as you've documented they enjoy it when business reap the benefits of undocumented labor (i.e. wage suppression).
That was obvious ever since they claimed asylum seekers that had followed the legal asylum process were “illegal immigrants” and society and the media just went along with that phrasing despite it being factually incorrect.
I wish all comments in political threads required a reference for any claims made.
Here's a report on it with many examples: https://humanrightsfirst.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Stok...
Well, when they claim that X million illegal immigrants entered the country despite them supposedly not being in the system and thus not countable, and the numbers line up with asylum seeker numbers, and they do things like cancel asylum seekers status[1] or releases criminals to go after asylum seekers[2] its hard not to come to that inference.
[1]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-ice-asylum-cases-deportat...
[2]https://www.cato.org/blog/trump-released-criminals-so-he-cou...
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That definitely isn't true. Trump has repeatedly been effusive about how important H1B labor is.
How so? In September he added a requirement that any future H1B visas from people abroad will require an unprecedented $100,000 payment.
I saw that many welcomed this, since it will help stop the visa mills, and push towards importing higher talent, rather than local-offshoring. What's your opinion on these two?
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Well either $100,000 per person or an large one time direct donation to Trump to be legally exempted from that charge.
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Is this sarcasm? Not that Trump's word means anything, but Trump has been against it since his first term. Having cancelled it temporarily in that first term, has said that he'll end H1B if he gets reelected, and that US shouldn't have the H1B program.
It's only since 2025 when Elon was in his good books and told Republicans to not vote for a bill that Trump woke up that day and decided he'd be pro-H1B.
All you had to do was a 10 second google search to find that:
The racial and ethnic makeup of legal immigrants who have obtained Lawful Permanent Resident (LPR) status or arrived as new immigrants in the past four years (2022–2025) has been primarily driven by arrivals from Latin America and Asia.
Asian: Approximately 27% to 28% of all immigrants.
Hispanic/Latino (Ethnicity): Roughly 45% of the total immigrant population identify with Hispanic or Latino ethnic origins.
White: About 20% to 21%.
Black/African American: Approximately 9%.
Multi-racial: About 22% identify as having two or more races.
It just amazes me people continue to push these racist narratives that doesn't hold up once you look at the actual data. Its staggering to think we have the unlimited power of the internet and still can't seem to take 10 seconds to confirm or deny something as simple as this? How depressing.
The patent comment is mentioning on the recent changes by the current administration where reports from last year indicated that there will be a huge reduction in the number of accepted refugees of which the majority will be white south Africans. What does numbers from 2022 to 2024 have to do with that assertion?
I think they are just generalizing the narrative around the current administrations stance on immigration by using those numbers to show it’s a completely mixed bag.
I find that level of detail succinct enough to allude that the current administration is just being extremely racist and bigoted by singling out colored minorities without lifting a finger for other racial demographics. In which case, relevant.